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Okay, so here are my indications
for direct and indirect.
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Close your eyes and
tell me about direct.
00:06
What are you trying to identify?
The antibody.
00:08
Is it the antibody screen or are you trying
to identify the antigen antibody complex?
Good.
00:16
In this case, we’re trying
to identify the RBC,
which is now being attacked or
bound pathologically with an IgG.
00:25
That’s the complex we
are trying to identify.
00:27
Let’s continue.
00:28
You incubate the patient’s
RBCs with anti-IgG or IgM.
00:33
What are those?
The Coombs reagent.
00:37
Tell me about this RBC.
00:37
Is it a test RBC or is
it the patient's RBC?
Look, read.
00:43
Patient RBC.
00:45
It already has the IgG bound
to it or IgM bound to it.
00:48
Are we clear?
Next, with this Coombs reagent,
guess what it binds to?
Good, it binds to the IgG.
00:56
Because the Coombs reagent
is your anti-IgG.
01:00
If you get positive
and it's for IgG,
it’s warm.
01:06
If you want to use warm in Georgia,
by all means, please do so.
01:10
Or IgM, it’s cold in Michigan
especially during winter months.
01:17
So whatever that helps you memorize
and always associate IgG
– warm and IgM – cold.
01:24
That’s step 1.
01:28
Quickly, I’m just going to give
you indirect that is really --
this test is not relevant for
us in this lecture series,
but it is important
in overall medicine.
01:35
In indirect Coombs test, what
are you trying to identify?
Good.
01:39
The antibody.
01:41
That’s why it’s called
an antibody screen.
01:43
Whom?
Who’s your population that you’re
truly worried about finding antibody?
How about maternal
prenatal testing?
What do you mean?
You all have heard of Rh
incompatibility, right?
Rh incompatibility.
01:57
What goes on with that?
Well, it’s the fact that you
have a mother who is Rh negative
and the fetus is Rh positive.
02:04
The first born, no problem, gets out.
02:07
However, the problem is that the
mother who was Rh negative,
what does Rh negative mean to you?
It means on the RBC membrane,
you have antigens.
02:17
If your mother does
not have a D antigen,
then she is Rh negative.
02:23
What about the fetus?
She's holding on to a fetus.
02:29
On the fetus’ RBC membrane,
there might be a D antigen.
02:34
What do you call the
fetus at that point?
Good.
02:36
Rh positive.
02:37
Now the first born will be okay even if
she is not getting any treatment, right?
The reason for that is because it takes
time for the mother to develop antibodies.
02:49
Not to mention even if I
had IgM from the mother,
is IgM going to cross
the placental barrier?
Not at all.
02:57
So the first born gets out, but
the mother, she forms what?
Preformed antibody.
03:03
When we say preformed
antibody, what does that mean?
IgG.
03:06
Un-oh.
03:07
Now she gets pregnant again.
03:11
She doesn’t have proper access to
health care or for whatever reason,
she chooses not to
get prenatal care.
03:18
So now, she is still Rh negative.
03:20
She hasn’t changed.
03:20
But what about the fetus?
The fetus, the second one as
well, is also Rh positive.
03:28
This fetus really has no chance of
living if she doesn’t get care.
03:32
So what happens to that preformed?
What kind of preformed
antibodies does a mother have?
IgG.
03:36
What does IgG do?
Passes right through
the placental barrier, huh?
And the mother then sees
the fetus unfortunately --
the maternal immune system views
the fetus as being the enemy,
the antigen, that's
supposed to be there.
03:53
And so therefore the maternal IgG
unfortunately will kill the fetus.
03:58
How?
Kernicterus.
03:59
That's something that you
have discussed in immunology.
04:03
I’m just quickly repeating this.
04:03
Isn’t it imperative that
you do an antibody screen
where you can see as to whether
or not the Rh negative mother
has the antibody that
might kill off the fetus?
Sure.
04:16
Indirect maternal prenatal testing.
04:19
Prior to a blood
transfusion is big.
04:20
Detects unbound
anti-RBC antibody.
04:25
Big point, unbound,
because this is an
antibody screen.
04:30
Patient’s serum is incubated
with RBCs of known antigenicity.
04:34
That is not the RBC from the patient.
04:37
Compare that to the
RBC in the direct.
04:40
That’s the RBC from the patient.
04:43
If you do have agglutination,
then you have positive here.
04:44
But as I said, for our discussion
in this lecture series,
there are some very important
points under indirect Coombs.
04:50
But we will be focusing
upon direct Coombs test
and how that’s relevant for us to
diagnose autoimmune hemolytic anemia.